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ITFNZ National Tournament 2007 - Feedback

Hosted by Counties Manukau on 22nd - 23rd September 2007

Thanks for all your feedback on the Nationals. THis has been helpful to the organisers

Your feedback to date indicated:

Did you like the On-line entry forms / Registration?
23 YES
1 NO
Did you like having the events at the Saturday night dinner?
19 YES
6 NO
Did you like having the dinner at the tournament venue?
17 YES
6 NO
Did you like having ID tags for competitors
27 YES
0 NO


Feedback:


Saturday Night Events: Nicely done, although a few more bouts would of been ideal.
Dinner at the Venue: Worked out better than I thought it would.
ID Cards: This was really neat. Nice souveneirs.
General Feedback: Overall an awesome experience. Well done to all those whom ran the show behind the scenes. For future reference, could we please stick to the proposed schedule published online? I would rather finish a days events early than try and cram some Sunday events into the Saturday programme. That way, it doesnt muck around with competitors. But yeah, bring on Midlands 08!!!

Anon


Saturday Night Events: I think this is a great idea and means everyone can see the top competitors in action. Would love to see a repeat exhibition of the winning pre-arranged sparring like they did at the world champs. Centre stage lighting would be awesome but I appreciate that the volunteers setting up and organising the event have a lot to consider and that this would be quite a bit of work... however it would make it more spectacular. I also endorse the suggestion of music and MC. The Te Awamutu kickboxing events do this and is adds to the atmosphere and excitement.
Dinner at the Venue: I was pleasantly surprised how well this worked. The queing was a problem but hey... there were a lot fo people to feed. The food was just awesome. Well done!
General Feedback: Well done to all the volunteers running this tournament. You set a high standard. I liked the way the announcer promoted the sponsors - they contribute a lot of cash and need to be well looked after which I felt they were. A lot of us were disappointed in the "best" belt trophys not being awarded. Regardless of international standards, this is a disappointment and I think playoffs should be reinstated. Just my opinion tho.

Doug Hanna


Saturday Night Events: Events at Saturday night dinner is a great idea! Maybe next year, the concept can be built on...TKD finals night should be built up like a show. Some ideasX Need anouncer and maybe even running commentry Need Music and Entertainment ie when competitors come into the ring they could choose a theme song Have a lighting system around or above the ringand rest of the venue in darkness Give the athletes a few hours rest before the finals so they can recover/eat something (it was a long day for many blackbelts who where in multiple events one after the other - hard to perform on the night after a hard day like that) Show pre-arranged winners on final night, with their concent of course (always exciting) Maybe have a demo prepared for spectators, to show off other spectacular aspects of TKD to supporters, things they would not normally be able to see A program for finals night might be a good idea as well
Dinner at the Venue: Not sure how, but some method to reduce the wiating time for dinner? More serving tables?

ID Cards: Tags were brilliant. Maybe have the tournament logo printed on them (cost dependent Im sure)as many people will keep them as a souvenir
General Feedback: Tournament was well run Amazing that it finished as early as it did,real credit to the organising team. You are all amazing! "Best overall" awards were a bit disapointing. A system which results in non of them being awarded, is flawed. Either a fair way of having a play off is needed. Someone suggested theory as beign fairer than patterns or sparring, as each belt level should know their corresponding theory. Another idea is to create more categories, ie further split best overall categories into male and female, or junior, intermetiate, senior and veteran? At the awards dinner on Saturday, would have been nice to have print outs of what each person was nominated for and what they did to deserve their nomination, so we could learn a bit more about the recipients Thank you for all your hard work. Im sure everyone at the tournament appreciated your time and effort

Anon


 

Just a quick message to Mrs Breen and her Team to say thanks for a great weekend and a well run Tournament. Fun had by all from the Wellington Team and we enjoyed the hospitality.

Nick Lorantos



Daturday Night Events: With young competitors, the dinner is really not an option, after many hours travelling the day before.
ID Cards: These are a great idea. Am sure the system of recognising and taking off etc will improve.
General Feedback: A great tournament. I understand why you elected to have all BB events on Saturday, but meant for a nervous wait for coloureds and Sunday felt flat. The tournament doesn't seem to have the 'build up' factor about it. Having team events later on Sunday may achieve this. The sound system was inaudible from upstairs. This made it hard to feel apart of proceedings. Otherwise, a fun weekend.

Loyal supporter of three competitors!

 



Dinner at the venue: it draged out for the kids, no other drinks avil, thought the meal was limited
General Feedback: i felt not having playoffs for best overall belts was unfair and i would love to have bigger divisons or more alowed to compete so there are more bouts. otherwise i thought the tournament ran very smooth and was enjoyed by all

P Parata

 


Saturday Night Events: Went on for too long.. many hungry people. Perhaps do the BB's patterns only.
Dinner at the venue: Not much socialising went on... perhaps a bar would help
ID Cards: Colour scheme could be improved
General Feedback: Tournament was well organised. However, there was/is a big confusion regarding Best belt trophies. If there wasn't time for playoffs, then perhaps best equal trophies should be awarded. Congrats to Counties Manukau for the best region. Would've been nice to announce total points for all regions, just so that each region gets to cheer to finish off the tournament.

Anon


Saturday Night Events:team sparring would have been good - but a long day for those competing.
Dinner at the venue: I agree that it could have been started during the finals. (and a bar)
General Feedback: I thought it was great having BBs on first day. If some Black belts didn't turn up on the Sunday then it is a sad reflection on them individually. I also wondered why everyone didn't form up in Do bok at the end as requested on the Sunday.

Neil Kettings



General Feedback: We are getting a really good variety of comment here. Right down to the dinner table closest to the doors being cold - this is all stuff that will help to make a better experience next time. So we encourage anyone with any such thought to add it here. It is marvellous to get a sponsor's viewpoint, (especially one like that Xo) and I certainly feel pride in our People and our Organisation on reading Mr Thompson's comments. It is very heartening to see that the general impression was of smooth organisation, because I assure you many times during the two days one feels like that duck, paddling furiously underneath.

Of course a large number of people contribute to the success - but I would like to take the opportunity here to mention the group that are dearest to the Chief Recorder's heart. Our tournaments would not run to schedule if it were not for the Ring Marshalls. Their job is at times like herding cats, and these folk are run off their feet non-stop from the start of the tournament to the very end - with little drop in pressure in between. The Recorders create the competition schedule - my personal "best thing about the tournament" was how close it ran to that schedule - and as far as I am concerned, the Marshalls made that happen. (The only minor hiccup we had, was with a few "less than 100% cooperative" Senior Black Belt competitors on Saturday afternoon) We have come to rely on a small core group, who are simply really good at their job, and give example to the rest, lead by Mrs DonnaMaree Edwards, and Mr David Parker. I would very much like to hear some feedback from Managers and Coaches on the topic "Did you like the On-line entry forms / Registration" It certainly made life easier for us getting all the entrants into the Draw!

Neil Breen


Saturday Night Events: Prevents some from attending. Dinner tickets expensive for those who travel long distances. Unable to watch even though only a spectator. Haven't been to a national dinner for some time. Like to have a bit of fun!
ID Cards: ...easily misplaced, especially the Juniors!
General Feedback: Great to see the black belt events all on one day. Enables us more quality time to spend on the coloured belts on the Sunday. For first time coloured belts, a level of disappointment if there is only two or three in their division as they really appreciate honing their sparring skills at Nationals. Tournament was however extremely well organised. Great to see medals presentations at the end of each division. Everything flowed. No rush. The $50 entry fee is too high.

anon


Saturday Night Events: undecided makes it late finish for juniors, nice to know which events likely to be involved. Hard on competitors too.
Dinner at Venue: it is an awful lot of work for the hosts, more than necessary if it was else where.Atmosphere and heating missing those near the entrance doors froze all evening. Food was great the wait wasnt.
ID Cards: do they have to be so big. Perhaps a separate colour for each district or was it for each belt colour havent worked that out yet?
General Feedback: The orgainsation was great a difficult job well done. Agree outside signs would have been good. liked five rings the big screen on both sides of the hall would be nice, better sound system upstairs above the microphone it was impossible to hear a single word. A results board or screen would be great too if posible. Liked medal ceremonies after each event nice to acknowledge quickly and should lessen the time for closing ceremony. Disappointed that the best over all belt trophies not awarded. Must be a way to sort that.... play off, best junior, and adult (what about new intermediate categorty too) Even a certificate something to help those sucesfull know their achievement was recognised. Personally I think the trophies should have been awarded and a duplicate obtained for the one not presented on the day perhaps a smaller version they could keep? At the very least they should have photographed the winners with the trophy even if they didnt keep it. On subject of medals I am aware of the problems that the medals create but it would have been nice if there was a difference for the spaing and patterns medals even the ribbon just something to differentiate them. only minor comments a postive weekend and dont we have a lot of tallented people. role on the worlds lets show them NZ!

anon


Saturday Night Events: Didn't think it was a particularly good setting for black-belt sparring finals to take place. Kind of like having seating arrangements at a heavy metal concert... great atmosphere for patterns though!
Dinner at Venue: Ensured plenty of space available for people dining... as opposed to packing in like sardines as we did in Wellington in 2006
General Feedback: Might have been a nice idea to have team event at the end of the tournament to really go out with a bang, although the comment has been made by some BB's that it was relieving to have got all their events out of the way so they could focus on the colour belts the second day. Sound system needs to be improved, as quality upstairs was dismal. Venue was nice and intimate without being too small.

anon


Saturday Night Events: although not sure how fair it was on the competitors. Would have been good to see Mark Trotter sparring - maybe have team sparring and patterns only instead of individual events.
General Feedback: Mr and Mrs Breen and Mr Eccles - you were fantastic. Mr Hanna - never stopped even during the dinner, and such good quality photos. Well organised tournament. Not sure about the $20 entry fee. There is no way of telling how many people were discouraged by an entry fee but I know of 10 (and they knew the competitors!). A play-off for best overall trophies would have been good even if the points weren't included in the overall result. Might as well give them to someone.

anon


Saturday Night Events: it was nice but since not all go to dinner i think it would be better to have during the day so better support
Dinner at Venue: i did and i didn't, i would like to have regions mixed at tables where ever we have dinner that way we can socialise better instead of just being with your own team
ID Cards: a little annoying but easy to get used to, photos would be good but not necessary
General Feedback: we need to advertise to the general public, there was no sign outside the stadium saying what was happening and my team mates in law had heard nothing about it. don't move events up, it's ok to be running ahead, but one of my juniors was meant to be on about three, then he was told to be ready at eleven, then after lunch and was on after four so please follow the program next year.

Sean Lukken


Saturday Night Events: Team events would be exciting
General Feedback: Awesome event, very well organized and professional

Anon


General Feedback: Saturday night was a great idea, but it lacked the atmosphere of last year's Saturday night. This year the food ran out, and there wasn't enough juice and water on the tables. It would be good to have guides for spectators after they enter the event - to show them where seating, toilets, food, and stalls are. And also to tell spectators a little about the event and answer questions. From outside, you couldn't tell there was anything going on at the Stadium. Would be great to have flags or some other signage outside the Stadium on the roadside. Perhaps we could have a standard, "An exciting Taekwon-Do event inside..." banner? Alternatively we could get a banner made for the event. Some objected to the $20 entry fee (although they also thought the ticket stubs were silly, and we know to the contrary how useful that information will be, and one student who came and did pay didn't object).

Anon


Saturday Night Events: Didn't go as kids competing next day
ID Cards: Compliance will only improve as people get use to the idea
General Feedback: Prefer 2 minutes round for sparring or inform before event, sound system was hard to hear upstairs. Venue was good and central, toilets upstair needed maintenance. Excellent date 1st weekend School holidays "Huge Tick". 5 judges on most rings for patterns "awesome effort". All appeared to flow smoothly

John Kerkvliet


Dinner at Venue: The atmosphere was very poor and flat at the venue - Wellington was much better. While the food was good, I found I couldn't fit enough on my plate and when I went for seconds (over twenty mins after the first meal) there was still a queue which is pretty poor for people having to wait that long for dinner. Also, needed a bar! Whoever failed to get the liquor license really should get one next year - it would have been a huge improvement to the whole evening!
General Feedback: Need a sign advertising what is going on inside the venueX I talked to several people who drove/walked past who said they would have come in if they had known what was going on inside but due to a lack of (visible?) signage they kept on going. However, these 'walk ins' would have been discouraged by the $20 fee, in fact, they all stated that they would not have paid $20, or even $10 for something they knew absolutely nothing about. Furthermore, people would be more likely to come if they paid per day, that is, $10 per day and if they did come back on the next day they could pay another $10.

Anon


Saturday Night Events: I have coloured belts and young ones at that, too much for them after an early start.
ID Cards: GeExcellent from the ring marshalls perspective, easy!
General Feedback: Hard to balance the needs of all I say! We had invited friends who (a) wanted to see out kids as coloured belts but (b) would have been really impressed and would have enjoyed the black belt day! Thanks to the organisers, generally a thankless type of job as we are ever evolving towards the best scenario. Most excellent were the runners, they were helpful, enthusiastic and tireless in their efforts to help!

Kay Kendall


Saturday Night Events: Fantastic idea. Music and lights would be good for next time. Might have to think about putting finals night on another day if you want the best performances - not as easy for competitors after a full day of competition.
General Feedback: I thought the tournament was very efficient compared to some previous years. Marshalling was well done. Great use of space in the stadium. Overall, the quality of the tournament seems to be improving every year. Nice work.

Anon


General Feedback: Hi Team! This was the first ITFNZ event of this scale that we have attended and the first ever that we have sponsored. I have to say that we were absolutely blown away by the whole weekend! In over 20 years of martial arts training I have seen and been a part of a lot of different organisations and I can honestly say that the enthusiasm, atmosphere, attitude, and positive energy of everyone involved this weekend was phenomenal and unlike anything I had seen before in NZ! ITFNZ has created something quite unique and we were very proud to have been a part of the event.

To provide feedback from a sponsorship perspective, purely on a “Value for money” basis, I felt that it was very good and I am happy with the result. The brand exposure was good, the email database that we are being provided is excellent, and our treatment throughout the weekend was great (VIP area, host ((Michelle was great)) and recognition). It was all done professionally and very obviously with a genuine appreciation.

Carl Matthews and Mark Banicevich did a fantastic job and were brilliant to deal with. To sum it up…We will be continuing to sponsor and support ITFNZ events into the future. Overall, from a sponsors perspective, a martial artists’ perspective and an excited (and impressed) spectator’s perspective, I thought the event was brilliant and I am looking forward to 2008’s Nationals! Thank you for the opportunity to be involved. Keep up the great work.

Mr Phil Thompson
Protect


Saturday Night Events: Not really, was TKD'd out by dinner and wasn't really interested
Dinner at the Venue: Wellington's event night was more of a "night out", much more fun
General Feedback: Was still a very good and well run event

Anon


General Feedback: I was disappointed with the updates on the web page waited all day for some pics and then no results till the end of the second day. it did say on the site updated twice a day. When pics were available variety was quite good for a change

Anon


Dinner at the Venue: It took ages to serve dinner - my table was dead last. tables should have been called up while the events were on - anyone who wanted to watch that particular event could have just joined the dinner line later. that way people wouldn't have had to wait until quite as late to eat

Anon


General Feedback: A bit congested at times around rings 4 and 5 Mr and Mrs Breen you guys Rock!

Anon


Saturday Night Events: I don't think it really worked - atmosphere wise - all regions were split up so no cheering really went on
Dinner at the Venue:Would have much preferred to go somewhere a little nicer - maybe with a bar!

Anon


Saturday Night Events: Really liked the patterns
ID Cards: I can hide the fact that I forgot someone's name much more easily. Can we have them on officials too next time?
General Feedback: Drove back to Manawatu after closing, so AWESOME to see event run to time so well.

Tony Bishop


Dinner at the Venue: Maybe have dinner at the same time as the finals. More buffets to speed access to Dinner.
General Feedback: Keep improving! Wellington was amazing.. Another step in the right direction. Keep raising the Bar! MID sure have a task ahead of them!

Anon


Saturday Night Events: A few too many bouts
Dinner at the Venue: Great food
ID Cards: An essential step forward. Next step photos on the cards.
General Feedback: An excellent event overall. Continued to lift the bar after the big lift in Wellington. Some suggestions for next event... Next year we need to organise a few more sponsor hosts, and do so earlier, and give them identifiable staff shirts. We need to do more to encourage sponsors to come to the event - those who came know the benefits they received far more clearly. Finals night would have been better if Mr Campbell had MCed the bouts. He was really good at increasing atmosphere, and even the cameramen noticed that the atmosphere seemed a bit flat at finals night. Power and special was on the wrong side of the venue - sponsors couldn't see these events. It would be good to have results scrolling through the big screens. Sponsors noticed that their eyes were drawn to action, and they missed bout results. Would be nice to have wine and beer in the VIP / sponsor room. (Master D mentioned hiring a bar manager, Michelle thinks.) Would be good to dim the lights for finals, but trade off because we need good light to film them... There are probably even more exciting events we could show at finals night. For example a team sparring final, a team pattern final, and pre-arranged free sparring. Athletes noticed they were very tired by the time finals night arrived after a long day and it was very stressful - perhaps we should get further feedback from them.

Mr Mark Banicevich


Saturday Night Events: yes need more entertainment so it didn't feel it dragged on, finished at an incredibly earlier than expected.
Dinner at the Venue: People are more familiar, it meant more work but with practice we can fine tune this minor hiccup.
ID Cards:Excellent it gave the competitor the recognition but a disadvantage was those that abused the system to gain access to areas that were off limits at specific times ie watching the mates at ring side.
General Feedback: To all those that contributed in this years Nationals (big or small) my personal appreciation and thanks for your input, competitors and families/ friends, officials, organisers, sponsors, behind the scene people and my 'doodle bugs' that no matter how big or small the task gave 110% without hesitation and always with a smile, you all displayed the 5 tenets during the weekend and if you are the future of ITFNZ and ITF then our organisation will go far I am soooo proud of you all THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH, ps... see you at the Oceanics 2008 my little darlings you are too much.

Mrs Natasha Iotua


Saturday Night Events: Bad idea, made the dinner really long, atmosphere was lacking, longer day for competitors. For this idea to work you need lights, music, really make something out of it, and a professional announcer wouldn't go amis(sorry Mark)
Dinner at the Venue: No bar facilities, notice everyone each year always gets up and leaves as soon as the awards are over, but this year they left twice as fast.
ID Cards: Absolutely a great idea, however it seemed the officials and competitors didn't know exactly how this system was supposed to work. But i am sure that will get better
General Feedback: I also didn't like separating the colours and BB's, only half the competitors and spectators present each day. I felt that this was really noticeable in spectator participation. Also, how many BB's came back on the Sunday? And yes there were more officials available on Sunday, which did work. I did speak to several competitors, and the BB's liked the split as it gave them more time to focus on themselves and not worry about students they might have and having to compete in between seconding them, so good from that point of view. But the coloureds didn't like it, as they felt a little left out on the first day as not all BB's supported the event on Sunday. Overall, a great tournament, not many injuries, and lots of fun.

Mr Gwyn Brown


 

On behalf of the Auckland North Region I would like to thank all you and your region for a great 2007 ITFNZ National tournament.

Great venue set-up and very well organized.

Well done again for your region in winning this years tournament and please pass onto Mr Pellow and Mr Harrison for there great efforts with the team as well.

Also pass on our appreciation to Mr and Mrs Iotua.

Also to Mr Neil Breen for his never ending work with the organising, putting place and then the gathering of divisional sheets crunching the numbers and coming up with the right answer at the end of it.

Once again an absolutely well run fantastic tournament.

Regards George Konia.


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